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George Noory: How do we deprogram
ourselves? How do we fight the control? What do we do?
Michael Tsarion: Go the right
teachers, and for me that's always the Jung’s, and the Freud’s, and the Wilhelm
Reich’s, and even the Ayn Rand’s. Go to the right kinds of teachers. That
doesn't mean believe everything they say, that doesn't mean that they're right.
But we need to look at man as the individual for who he really is, in sort of a
distinction, you know, from his roles, from all of the things that he's bought
into because, as you said earlier on, he's concerned about his security, and
that's fine. We're not saying leave the roles. We're just saying realize you're
in those roles, but you're something else. You're a dharmic being. You're a
potential light-worker. You're a potential master of your own life. You're a
priest and priestess of your own existence. Start looking into that; feel the
confidence; find your selfhood again. Stop making other people dependent on
you, and stop becoming dependent on others. Examine the anxieties. You talked earlier
on about the tremendous level of fear that exists in the world. Well there's
fear, that's from external things, and then there's anxiety, which is a man’s
insecurity about his own nature, his own being. And as we said, because of this
colonizing power of monarchy and the autocracy, you know man has been shaken to
the foundations. He's a mutilated, his psyche is mutilated. So he needs to
start looking back in. We all know we got two arms, two legs and a head. Anyone
can tell you the anatomy of the physical body. What is the anatomy of thinking?
What is thought? Who is thinking about thought? You know there’s a whole
anatomy of the mind. There's a whole anatomy of consciousness that needs to be
again reviewed.
George Noory: Michael, when I was a
kid growing up in Detroit I remember my father going to work.
He worked for Ford Motor Company. We had a small little house which they still
own, they bought it in 1958. I moved in there with them when I was eight years
old. We had an even smaller house before that. He, I remember that if we went
out at all, it was in a family setting, we went to see relatives or we went to
a little place for dinner. But I always remember him being home. Very rarely do
I remember him just leaving, and we were there with my mother or we were there
by ourselves. Later on in life, when we got older, you know the two of them
would go out, they'd come back, and stuff like that, but something's happened
to the family, too, I think, that has had a drastic effect on this entire scheme
that's falling all over the place. And it's
as if everybody's been separated, and I think they did that on purpose, too.
